Welcome to this weekend edition of Free Steve Kirsch Memes, dedicated to our fearless defender of fluvoxamine!
For those of you who don’t know, fluvoxamine (a.k.a Luvox, Faverin, also affectionately known in these parts as Fluvoxashit) is a toxic SSRI that:
Causes Japanese women to become aggressive and violent towards their mothers and husbands;
Was found at therapeutic levels in the bloodstream of Columbine shooter Eric Harris;
Was known early on to be a “stimulant” type of antidepressant, making it a poor choice for people at risk of agitated depression. Fluvoxamine’s effects can be greatly exacerbated by caffeine (the SSRI significantly extends caffeine’s half-life), so should be avoided by people who consume coffee - which is pretty much everyone.
Gained its FDA approval in the US via the submission of a New Drug Application containing “falsified” (fraudulent) data.
Where would the world be without people like Steve Kirsch, irresponsibly recommending garbage antidepressants that cause everything from nausea to suicide?
And where would we be without his stupid and empty challenges, that he clearly has no intention of paying when someone finally calls his bluff and proves him wrong?
So here's a weekend meme tribute to this man among men, who talks the talk but scampers like a mouse when asked to walk the walk.
A supposedly fearless man who loudly issues bold challenges, but becomes silent like a mute when asked to pay the money he owes people like yours truly.
Enjoy folks, because laughing at lunacy is probably the only value we'll ever get out of Steve Kirsch.
Oh, and the images below are not copyrighted, so feel free to share them like cake at an Italian wedding.
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Glad to know all this. I think the FDA should start doing REAL drug investigations instead of allowing drug makers to approve them on their own. It’s like medical students reading their own research papers/grants and grading them themselves.
That would be nice, but sadly the FDA is pretty much owned by industry. It serves Big Pharma, not the public.
I know and I was thinking that as I was writing the comment. It’s sad we have such corrupt lettered agencies and governments.
The FDA gets busted and reorganizes (reinvents) itself and promises to do better quite often. Unfortunately, the agency just gets worse and worse, the public gets harmed & ripped off more and more, because the reorganizations are organized the foxes, not the roosters.
Yes, just like all the other lettered agencies. Romney’s niece just got a new job, working for NBC (or Chiden’s News Network). So we know the gov’t does this too.
I am proud to say I was blocked by the $Grifter$ for posting your links calling him out..
I’m proud of you too 🙂 He’s sure showing his true colours…
Wayne, I’m not taking sides here, and we know Steve’s intent is to publicly debate people who question his work, however nowhere does it specifically state that it’s a requirement in order to collect the money for the fluvoximine data. Anthony is posting legitimate studies and is meeting Steve’s terms, so what gives?
Thanks for taking the time to respond Wayne!
You present a very one-sided, romanticized view of this regrettable character. For a man allegedly so busy saving the world, Kirsch sure has plenty of time to engage in childish tomfoolery like self-aggrandizing challenges and dopey surveys that prove nothing.
You accuse me of “engaging in a childish attack.”
No, I’m pointing out that Kirsch is not only wrong on fluvoxamine, but his gushing over this drug is dangerous. I have every right to point this out, even if it does hurt the feelings of his sycophantic moderators.
You do realize you’re talking about my response to a childish, egocentric buffoon that loudly issues challenges like a drunk in a bar room, right?
“instead of having a civilized discussion or giving Mr. Kirsch some time to analyze the extensive studies and information”
A civilized discussion with … Kirsch??
The guy who shouts down the phone at reporters and sends them emails in ALL-CAPS?
Lol.
As detailed by me, and ignored by you, I tried.
But I was ignored by Kirsch. Which seems to be his routine response to people who can actually dispute what he claims.
“It makes me wonder if he doesn’t want the money”
Oh, I want the money alright. It was promised to the first person who could meet his challenge. That’s me. I was the first person to meet his challenge, so it’s owed to me.
As I explained to Kirsch when I notified him of my response to his challenge, I want to give the money to a loved one who, through no fault of their own, suffers a painful condition called regional complex pain syndrome. They deserve that money – Kirsch doesn’t. He’s a self-aggrandizing carnival barker that loudly issues challenges, usually framed in a manner that makes them impossible to meet. He slipped up on the fluvoxamine challenge, I’m guessing due to a combination of hubris and scientific ineptitude.
Your arrogant hero thought he could slime his way out of giving me the money by having a debate first.
But there was never any mention of a debate in his fluvoxamine challenge – he asked for “hard evidence”, which I have supplied.
Having pointed that out to him, he has now gone silent and is ignoring me.
This is your selfless hero? A coward who boosts his own ego with loud challenges, then ignores people who irrefutably meet those challenges?
The man is showing himself to be a dishonest liar. He is acting in bad faith.
“I’m just trying to think of a reason for the attacks. ”
If you can’t work out the motive behind my so-called “attacks” on the dishonest, evasive Kirsch after all I’ve written on this topic over the last week, you’re thinking apparatus is clearly in need of a major overhaul.
This isn’t rocket science, Wayne. It’s actually quite simple:
-Kirsch made a challenge;
-I successfully met that challenge, fair and square;
-Kirsch is now refusing to give me the money he publicly promised to the winner.
This is why he now finds himself the subject of memes belittling his lack of integrity. Because he has none.
“except for this one subject”
Alerting people to the fact that Kirsch is recklessly recommending a drug documented to cause all manner of psychiatric disturbances, including a heightened risk of completed suicide, is not “serious” enough for you?
Logically and systematically recounting the research showing fluvoxamine to be dangerous is “not a very logical way to alert people to the dangers of SSRI.”?
Sure thing, Wayne.
What I obviously need to do instead is make outrageous claims based on junk science, then issue disingenuous challenges that I have no intention of honouring.
Like your hero, Kirsch.
Just out of curiosity Wayne, have you taken Kirsch to task for his illogical, childish habit of issuing carefully-framed challenges that he clearly has no intention of honouring?
Have you admonished him for refusing to honour a monetary challenge he publicly made?
Or are you a sycophantic hypocrite?
Oh, and did I mention that falsely pimping fluvoxamine as a “safe, fast, easy, 100% effective” treatment for ‘COVID’ – as your deity Kirsch does – is “not a very logical way to alert people to the dangers of SSRI”?
Wayne,
I’m jumping in here briefly as a “character witness” of sorts, in some hope that you can convey to Steve that Anthony is a serious, competent gentleman and in no way has nefarious motives. I blog at FreeTheAnimal.com (20 years, 5,500 posts, 5 million words) and I have a new Newsletter, The Swagger (swagger.freetheanimal.com).
I am generally a fan of Steve and have blogged about him many times (I did 99 posts during the Covidiocy). I appreciate much of his work on the vaccine injuries and the excess mortality. I must admit, however, that I have eye-rolled MANY times over the “challenges” he issues as, at least on the surface, they seem nothing but publicity and not serious efforts to pay people to put a lot of attention into his claims. Has he ever taken the L and paid up one single time? Not that I’m aware of. Why? Because he designs the challenges as unwinnable. He THOUGHT he designed this challenge in question that way. He effed up, as any honest assessment of Anthony’s thorough work will show.
If you’re familiar with Anthony’s other work (anthonycolpo.com, The Great Cholesterol Con, The Fat Loss Bible and most recently, Not So Fast) you’ll know that…
1. He is extremely thorough
2. He doesn’t cherry pick studies (ever)
3. He does not allow any diversions from the clear and present point of the matter
It is #3 that is of issue here. Because there were two acceptable responses, by Steve:
1. Take the L and pay up
2. Respond in an equally thorough and serious manner as to why he disagrees with Anthony’s challenge response
It’s that he did neither that is the only issue here. Anthony is not giving a planck’s length. And he’s not because he’s sticking to the points.
… So anyway, I’ve known Anthony for a decade or so online (I had previously been a critic, but determined for myself that he was right). We became occasional online correspondents and more recently, member’s of each-other’s paid blogs.
A couple of months ago, Anthony left Australia to come live in Thailand, where I’ve been an expat for 4 years. He took up temporary residence in my same condo complex while awaiting the processing of his long-stay visa. During that 5 weeks, we spent hours each day together, mostly in the activities of long walks and working out at the gym. And also the common fun stuff of getting together for outings for meals and such.
First of all, Anthony is a very polite gentleman who treats others, particularly strangers, with admirable respect. He’s a cool head, not a hot head at all.
He’s an absolute pleasure to be around and spend time with.
People get confused about this because of his professional demeanor online. And I mean professional. And one aspect of that professionalism is that he gets to the heart of matters and stays right there and when he gets back the common, “aw, c’mon, man, let’s schmooze a little and work this out, save face and all that…” he resists, and he resists hard because he knows exactly what is being sought.
At this point I have only skimmed Anthony’s answer to Steve’s challenge and subsequent posts, so I can’t say for sure yet what my judgment is. But I can say that I have gone through tons of Anthony’s stuff in the past (I looked at every study he cited in The Fat Loss Bible) and I have never found a single error, much less an intentional misleading.
Not one.
I am of the impression and expect to confirm that in my judgment, Steve’s goose is cooked here and he should just take the L.
And hey, now that Anthony has revealed what he plans to do with the money, Steve has the ideal face-saving gesture available to him right there and we all witness a win-win-win.
So why isn’t your boy Steve paying up after losing his own fluvoxamine challenge?
Steve Kirsch on how to show Steve Kirsch is spreading misinformation:
“Simply respond to as much as the evidence here as you are able and show either that 1) I misinterpreted the data or 2) an explanation for why it is misleading and the correct answer.”
I did that. And he’s refusing to pay. He’s ignoring me. Sent him another message today. He is a dishonest, hypocritical disgrace.
https://kirschsubstack.com/p/how-to-prove-that-i-am-spreading
When you say you like to help people accomplish their goals, that evidently doesn’t include the goal of seeking greater transparency as to the activities of the so-called “Vaccine Safety Research Foundation”:
https://open.substack.com/pub/lagatapolitica/p/steve-kirsch-the-king-of-digital?r=uhw5g&utm_campaign=comment-list-share-cta&utm_medium=web&comments=true&commentId=52321225
The noble-sounding blurb:
“We encourage questions and an open dialogue of transparency on any medical and scientific information presented.”
The reality:
“They have deleted many of my inquiries that questioned the DONATIONS, as I asked what % goes to Victims of vax injuries, if they had 1099’s avail, and if would discuss that. Also, they won’t discuss proof of isolation, the no-virus position. Booted by Wayne several times. Proton Magic was Banned from there. “transparency” until you affect our inbound gravy, luv VRSF.”
You’re not answering the question, Wayne. Asking perfectly reasonable questions is not spamming or trolling. Spamming or trolling is more akin to what you’re doing here: Namely, repeatedly defending Kirsch, calling me names, all without actually answering the questions.
Bye bye Wayne, can’t say we’re going to miss you. I would like to say congratulations on making a fool of yourself, on repeatedly saying things you can’t back up and instead resorting to the tired old ad hominem strategy.
“P.S. I still hope you write a book on SSRI. You can dedicate it to Wayne, the ad hominem sycophantic hypocrite comment moderator troll.”
No, I’d rather dedicate it to all the people who were driven to suicide by SSRIs, or were hurt or killed by others experiencing SSRI-induced mania/agitation. Something your boss Kirsch clearly doesn’t give two sh!ts about.
So why do you really ban people when they ask touchy questions about the VSRF, Wayne?
Why is it OK for you to come here and act like a pest, but people who ask hard questions about the VSRF are suddenly spammers and trollers? That’s a convenient way to dismiss critics, isn’t it?
I see Stevie has trained you well. Does he pay you well for being his passive-aggressive online attack dog?
”I’m not going to read everything for them.”
I submit that you and Steve, probably others, have spent more time embroiled in what is now a controversy than had you, at the outset…
1. Wait a sec, this challenge response looks serious, let’s dig in carefully because integrity is at stake
2. Made a determination to pay, dispute Anthony’s work thoroughly, or ask honest, clarifying questions in the spirit of making a solid determination and executing
What you, collectively speaking, did instead was obviously to dismiss it out of hand as “impossible,” because “cocksure” (why we do these challenges in the first place).
What’s obvious to me, at even just a cursory glance, is that you have yet to thoroughly review Anthony’s challenge and instead have done a bunch of hand-waving diversion and beside the point stuff.
Look, it’s simple: Steve should say either “oops, you got me,” and “now who’s your person you want this money transferred to?”… OR issue a thorough rebuttal to Anthony’s work that makes it clear and obvious that you reviewed it honestly.
I have my Occam’s Razor-like suspicions as to why this has not been done and the case settled, once and for all.
¨ Because there were two acceptable responses, by Steve:
1. Take the L and pay up
2. Respond in an equally thorough and serious manner as to why he disagrees with Anthony’s challenge response¨
I said the same thing to Wayne, but apparently he has a pathological condition that prevents him from addressing this simple fact.
He instead changes the subject for some other BS..
I think it’s becoming increasingly clear (and I’m not even following closely) that “Wayne” is Steve’s sock puppet.
I’m now using and am going to increase my influence on my two sites, and two Twitter accounts.
1. Should be easy enough to get Steve’s haters to promote this.
2. Just need a good handful of his fans (maybe a few have honest integrity, a handful out of half-million?) to start agitating about this.
3. Goal would be to cost him a few million.
https://twitter.com/rnikoley/status/1772867225302774183
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me too…he’s such a clueless coward… good on you!
These memes are biting…as they should be!
Never let up, Anthony! Killer memes too.
Mockery has a very important place in our society. Thank you for your contribution.
The one time I spoke with Steve Kirsch, he immediately offended me with his arrogance. I really don’t want to talk to him anymore.
On the one hand, I’m glad he’s against the vaxx, but on the other, he’s just pissing people off.
It’s Disney money anyway.
he revolts me…no one that homely should have money
when he started charging people a subscription to read his “weight loss plan” and then was spruking his crypto platform and investment tips i knew something was well up!
then when he started posting rambling rants like malone i knew he was not what he purported to be and i lost faith and respect in the man (if you can call him that)
Canadian study was negative. For violent suicide – CI crosses 1 for fluvoxamine so not statistically significant. Thanks for study links.