The left and the right want to end the same thing: Your freedom.
At 12:23 pm on the day he was allegedly ‘assassinated’, Charlie Kirk was ‘debating’ whether transgender people should have their right to own a gun revoked. An audience member asks, in a civil tone:
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
Kirk clearly doesn’t, because he simply replies:
“Too many.”
The manner in which Kirk responds to the question is telling. He listens to the question, casually leans forward, and picks up the microphone. He delivers his two-word response, not as an answer to an earnest question but as if it were a triumphant comeback to a verbal insult. The smirking Kirk then smugly puts the mike back down, as if the matter has been settled for all time. He is clearly pleased with himself, and oozes with self-assuredness.
If this is what passes for ‘debate’ nowadays, we’re in big trouble. However, the crowd laps it up. Their oracle has spoken. The adoring masses loudly cheer, totally indifferent to the fact their hero didn’t even begin to answer the question.
Simple-Minded Arguments Appeal to Simple-Minded People
Sometimes, the best arguments are indeed simple ones.
Why shouldn’t blind people be allowed to drive?
Because they can’t see where they are going.
Why shouldn’t pets be allowed to poo on carpet?
Because it stinks and it’s hard to clean up.
Why shouldn’t adults be allowed to have sex with children?
Because children are not sexual beings. They are children, for crying out loud.
Simple solutions are great. The problem is, not every problem has a simple, soundbite-level answer.
But that’s all Kirk ever was: A deliverer of soundbites.
His public ‘debates’ were about as genuine as the faith healing miracles performed by a Lamborghini-driving evangelist.
Curiously, evangelists never offer their miraculous services to public hospitals who, more than ever, could really do with some extra help. Likewise, Kirk never debated serious, capable opponents. His heavily-promoted image as an unassailable debater would not have been possible without a steady diet of young layman opponents and the predictable absence of a moderator to pull him up every time he talked over them and descended into his trademark condescension, intelligence-insulting reductionism, and scatter-gun spray of diversionary arguments.
Kirk was a sham. Anyone genuinely knowledgeable on any of the topics on which he smugly proselytised would have dismantled him in a New York minute. Which is why he carefully avoided worthy opponents. Instead, he harangued college kids, posting the footage on YouTube with titles like “Woke/Muslim/Transgender/[Insert name of other demographic hated by MAGA crowd] Student Gets DESTROYED!”
There are Kirk videos in which the titles even boast of his “WOKE” opponents being reduced to “tears” and “stuttering”.
None of which is particularly helpful to enlightened discourse. Honest debate is supposed to be about getting at the truth, not belittling and humiliating college kids in order to create self-aggrandizing propaganda for your social media channels.
Kirk did not debate in good faith. He was derisive and divisive. He cared little for the truth. He came prepackaged with a set of MAGA bromides and an arsenal of dubious tactics to pelt his opponents with them.
Yet his followers hold him up as a martyr, a man who fought to the very end for the truth.
Nothing could be further from reality.
Let’s use his transgender-gun ownership argument as an example.
I’ve already publicly stated what I think of the campaign to push children and teens into the sex change pen before they’ve had a chance to mature and reconsider (as I explain here, a significant portion of adolescents who experience gender ambiguity quite literally grow out of it).
That doesn’t mean I harbor a hatred of transgender people, or think it is OK to unfairly discriminate against them. I actually feel sorry for folks who are genuinely grappling with gender-identity issues; who am I to belittle their struggle or ridicule them as human beings?
Where I proudly differ from so much of Homo televisionensis is that I can delineate between minority and marginalized groups, and the bad actors who exploit them for ulterior motives.
So I went online looking for the number of transgender mass-shooters that Kirk was incapable of citing, and struggled to find anything more than a single-digit count.
Interestingly, as I was searching, I came upon this chart on Statista:
So if forbidding gun access on the basis of gender is the key to preventing mass shootings, then the data is unequivocal:
Men shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.
To be sure, I don’t even begin to support such a notion. Neither do the kind of people who follow Kirk, yet they are happy to embrace his incoherent logic when it suits their trans-hate agenda.
People dumb enough to follow the likes of Kirk really should be careful what they wish for.
So much activity of our governments and the supranational entities that control them (“ve have penetrated ze cabinets!”) is aimed at division. For all their talk of equity and inclusion, they deliberately keep us bickering and fighting with each other on such grounds as political leanings, race, gender, religion, and that perennial favorite for rousing up the simplestiltskin, immigration.
This is known as the divide-and-conquer strategy: When your enemy is too busy fighting among itself, it can’t direct its fighting energies towards you.
As I’ve said so many times, the left and the right are two sides of the same stinky turd.
The left did its job by pushing the transgender issue to the fore. Out of nowhere, and ahead of all the other marginalized groups suffering far more brutal outcomes, transgender folks were portrayed as the world’s most downtrodden people. Heck, they even overtook the Jews for a while there, and that’s really saying something.
The transgender cause was all but rammed down our throat. Libraries scheduled book readings by transvestites for children, in defiance of widespread parental opposition. People with penises were allowed to use female toilets, which the rest of us have long understood to be for people who do not have penises. Governments around the world passed legislation allowing minors to undergo “gender reassignment” without permission or even the knowledge of their parents.
Predictably, this pissed a lot of people off. Which was the entire point.
Growing public resentment will happen whenever you choose any group for selective and seemingly favorable treatment. When people who are struggling with bills, struggling to find a place to rent, and struggling to make sense of an increasingly irrational world are told they should first and foremost be concerned for the welfare of some group they in fact have nothing to do with, it’s going to rouse up a lot of “f**k you!” sentiment.
The left, having successfully installed transgender folks as the new hate icons of the right, had done its job.
Now it was the right’s turn. Back came the Don, after a pre-orchestrated four-year humiliation ritual. After a staged assassination attempt, all was forgiven. The Don was now exalted as an all-American hero, despite being a knee pad-wearing Zionist puppet.
With the Don came his admiring army of so-called ‘conservative’ influencers. Using black-and-white pub-level reasoning, they were now emboldened like never before to hate on their favorite targets without fear of being shadow-banned.
And so we had folks like Charlie Kirk mouthing off about transgender shooters. Kirk never seemed to ponder as to just why transgender mass shootings were a new phenomenon that seemed to coincide neatly with the left’s transgender sympathy drive.
Things that make you go hmmm.
Kirk’s followers applauded when he said transgender folks shouldn’t be allowed to own guns. At no point did these admiring geniuses ever stop to think:
“Hey, wait a minute. If the government bans transgender people from owning guns based on a handful of mass shootings, what will it then do in response to the overwhelming majority of mass shootings committed by straight white males?”
Fans of Trump, Kirk and all these other false messiahs of the right need to be very careful what they wish for. They are literally supporting the vehicles of their own demise.
Kirk’s fake non-profit was called Turning Point USA for a reason; I suspect this assassination hoax will indeed be a turning point, and for all the wrong reasons.
It will be used as an example of why the radical left has gotten way out of hand, and needs to be reigned back in. Of course, to do that, everyone except the parasite class is going to need to make some sacrifices.
They’ll control what you can and cannot say online, under the guise of combating “hate speech”. They’ll control your financial behavior, under the guise of combating “terrorism” and “money-laundering”. They’ll eventually come for your guns, under the guise of preventing mass shootings.
If you support Trump and his gushing army of phony conservative influencers, this is what your are effectively cheering for.
Stop it.
People are weird. Prior to having transgenderism forced down our throats I think many people were perfectly accepting of transgenderism as a thing but then as soon as it was forced down our throats they react against it as a thing rather than simply reacting against the forced-down-our-throats aspect – but as you say, Anthony, exactly the intention. People’s buttons are ludicrously easy to push.
No doubt the earnest question was from a plant and Charlie’s answer was scripted to occur just before the big bang.
The annoying thing really is that all mass shootings broadcast breathlessly around the world – or all the ones I’ve known of – are fake. If I could bet on it without consulting the details and have the chance to win a lot of money if correct or lose a lot if wrong I think I’d be willing to take the risk and bet on an alleged mass shooting committed by a transgender person as being staged.
The fact is that before the moneyed psychopaths brought out “transgenderism” as a “thing,” about 0.003% of Us wanted to hack and slash Our bodied to resemble the opposite gender. No way that small percentage could have initiated the “movement” organically.
So, yeah, money bought the “transgender agenda.”
And I might guess that 99% of “mass shootings” We are told of are hoax psyops.
“No doubt the earnest question was from a plant and Charlie’s answer was scripted to occur just before the big bang.”
Absolutely. I’m guessing if there were any genuine audience members at that event, they were relegated to the distant nosebleed sections where they couldn’t see what transpired in any real detail.
But it’s clear his smug brand of ‘debate’ was widely admired and celebrated among his gullible followers.
With you 100% on the veracity of these mass shootings, most immediately give telltale signs that they were a staged production.
In this case, getting shot by a guy allegedly dating a transgender person, with bullet casings engraved with transgender-related text, as Kirk was answering questions about transgender shooters … yep, just like something out of a movie. An awful B-grade movie with lots of crisis actors.
Trans kid is not the expert assassin. 200 yards. BS – Period. The insanity of bullets with “messages”, the incredible ghost rifle transport, the get a way, all CIA bs. Yes, maybe not a fan, but the facts, including zero Exit Wound (Bone mass? Superman?) BS.
The debate regarding Trans shooters was fast and needed no long reply. Many of Charlie’s answers were very lengthy.
The “a thing” was freaks and lunatics who wanted to pretend they were girls.
Still is.
Everyone is being played like the pawns in the game. I can’t even talk to those who are giving this controlled narrative a reality status.
Yup. It’s absolutely insane. Everyone I know has been polarized by Charlie Kirk. I’d never heard of him before. I don’t listen to government stooges. But all my friends who hate the gooberment and profess that everything the government says is a lie, all of a sudden believed the Charlie Kirk psyop.
Not only do I 100% agree with you, but I also have to comment that you have the best Substack handle of all time!
Bravo CC two links for you:
https://tritorch.substack.com/p/united-we-stand-divided-we-fall
https://tritorch.substack.com/p/counterfeit-continuity-in-our-fourth
Thankyou, an excellent analysis. We see much the same process playing out in Europe. In France, often violent protests being played out, which of course achieve nothing, and are playing right into the hands of the lizard people who can clamp down further on liberties because ‘the majority of people just want to get on with their lives and not be affected by strikes and protests’
It’s telling how much people are against something, they’ll always turn out to protest.
Try, however, getting people to come up with some workable solutions and to put aside their differences and work with others to implement meaningful enduring positive measures. Tangible improvements.
Plenty of ‘activists’ are carrying around anger that originates within themselves. Maybe their parents werne’t the best at handling a recalcitrant 2 year old and they’ve been carrying the rage around ever since, which now gets projected on to a cause.
Thanks again for writing a balanced article and not to speak ill of the dead but you identified exactly what I find ‘off’ about so many Charlie Kirks and couldn’t quite put my finger on.
Glad you’re on the front line of exposing the total fraud here AC! You’re a champion writer!!! WTF is happening to us???? I would have never imagined that civil wars would be stoked by something like this. Welcome to the Matrix!
Excellent.
Bitter truths here that many will never accept.
“Give me two-party politics or give me death!” (the cry of the herd)
Seems they’re now working to create the uniparty… Using the insanity They portray the “left” as having committed (when it was really the dirty bird who controls both wings). “EveryOne’s leaving the Democrats!”
“So if forbidding gun access on the basis of gender is the key to preventing mass shootings, then the data is unequivocal:
Men shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.”
Given that men commit the vast majority (90%+) of shootings, murder, rape, assaults, other violent crimes etc, it’s really something that “immigrants” get blamed instead. 93% of global prison population is men.
What really has the Muslim woman or Tanzanian woman or Indian woman or Cook Islands woman trying the eke it out in a new country with kids in tow ever done to anyone in a western country? Sure, their hubbies might be murderous or rapists from time to time, but the ladies?
Very telling clip of the elites too. Of the world’s top 10 richest people, all 10 are men. 90% of the top 100 richest people are men. 87% of billionaires are men.
Protecting their pockets are rule-following, people-murdering military personnel, approx 20 million active duty military personnel globally, over 90% of whom are…men. Likely similar numbers for police officers.
In terms of perceptions management so the rest of us follow along all the rules obediently, of the top 10 biggest media companies, 100% are run by men.
Of the top 10 of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies, all 10 are run by men, including Pfizer, Novartis, J&J, Roche, Merck, GSK, Sanofi.
If Kirk really wanted to highlight which gender is running the show, blindly following orders to keep everyone else in line (military/police), etc, he could start there…and then consider the consequences of his beliefs.
If suddenly people all over the world did want to unite and revolt (¡viva la revolución!), the main thing in their way would be…military/police puppets “just following orders”. Charlie Kirk would do well to ask why ordinary men are so easily convinced to follow orders senselessly, shoot down innocent protestors, and abandon both their humanity/compassion and their logical thinking for insane acts of unilateral violence, like we saw in Aussie Covid protests etc.
Why have ordinary men, throughout the ages, been convinced by elite men to do so much of their dirty work in wars etc? Sure, one could say they had no choice – but they had the guns and the numbers, so….
If men stopped committing crimes, 99% of major problems would go away (war, poverty, financial fraud, human trafficking etc). Seems like a good place to start for a revolución
Men are the biggest gun owners so what’s your point?
Fuck off Tony.
Right back atcha, JP!
As a senior college professor, I plan to debate with conservative high school students who didn’t know they’d be asked to debate and then edit the video of that so none of my embarrassing mistakes will show up.
To win a war, the warrior must use effective weapons against his enemy.
Perfectly articulated. I completely agree.
Yep, he’s skilled in rhetorical tactics that he hides his pseudo-intellectual true nature behind.
As I always say, hatred, prejudice, and bias are corrosive to cognitive function. These toxic ideologies literally deteriorate one’s ability to think.
Frankly, if You (not You, Anthony, You in general) support the whole psychopathic legal/governmafia mess, founded on the illegitimate idea that One can give authority One does not have to anOther over everyOne… You are part of the problem on Our planet.
Indeed, the “left” and the “right” are plot elements in the performance They give Us to cast sandy hooks into Our emotions and drag Us where They want Us, begging the “authorities” to fix the problems the script-writers for the “authorities” create.
The performance on the cave wall (Our screens) is not reality. The whole is scripted, actors cast, and directed from the wings by the hidden hand (most likely Roman) to justify Their psychopathic aims to control Us 100%.
Escape the Cave! (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/escape-the-cave
All of the mass shootings from Sandy Hook to the George Floyd have also been fake. After George we got the fake Covid
You forgot about the one that started it all. Michael Brown. All of this started well before Trump and Biden. In fact it was gaining the most momentum under Obama. Anyone who doesn’t see Michelle is really Big Mike is clueless. Joan Rivers spoke the truth.
We are educated to accept bribes because it works. We can achieve what we have been educated to believe. Fill the designated lack that we believe we want. All the while not privy to our basic fulfilling need of personal responsibility. Well written article! To the person who thought of the possibility of the loaded question to Kirk at the moment of enactment, I say hear hear was he a player? An interesting pursuit of an easy lead
Smith Mundt Modernization Act of 2012/3 amped things up. Agreed.
The problem with transgenderism is the militant, nihilistic, leftist dogma attached to it nowadays. It’s not just oh I’m confused whether I should be playing with dolls or GI Joe. It’s I’m a grown ass man that wants to dress as a woman and be able to use the female restroom to grope little girls. Nobody is going after children who are confused. It’s the mentally ill freaks that know better. Mental illness cloaked in militant political propaganda is dangerous. Sorry, but as a father “live, laugh, love” is only so tolerable.
That’s the perception they want you to have.
Saying all transgender folks are pedos is like saying all white adults are pedos because in Western countries, that’s exactly who most of the pedos are.
“Nobody is going after children who are confused. ”
That’s exactly who the globalists, through agencies like the UN, and governments are going after. They didn’t pass legislation allowing kids and teens to “reassign” their gender because they wanted to patiently wait until they were adults.
“We always give the public their heroes. We give the heroes to every faction, and then people once they hear this person say all the right things, we give releases to them because he or she speaks for ‘me’. We say go there go do that and they do it. We give our power to the authorized heroes.”
Albert Pike
Scottish Freemason
Thank you for waking me up! Truly appreciate your take.
Well they leave out the eugenics agenda always, as gender confused people can’t reproduce. They also leave out the pesticides, BPA (a literal estrogren substitute put in plastics by Dupont, another eugenicsist), and literally injecting male/female DNA into opposite genders and calling it a “vaccine”, that make people gender confused; notice also how once a person has been gender confused, most likely through these toxins, that mental health counceling is completely off the table, because curing their mental illness, means that they’ll make more kids. They need to mutilate sex organs with surgery to render them useless, and then blame the victim and say “it was their choice, I stand behind them”. None of these people debating ever get into anything meaningful, like you said they just keep it surface level to divide and conquer. It is just like even though most of them complain that government is horrible, government is the problem, never ever do they mention to anyone, to just disobey government, start disobeying. They’ll bring up the 2nd ammendment, as defending against a tyrannical government, but they’ll never ever mention that it means people would literally have to shoot the police, that’s what it means. Larken Rose has a great video describing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ36bV_MyKg
Looks like a dysgenics agenda to me.
Charlie’s debate style and the particular subject, transgender gun ownership, are predicated on the Argumentative Fallacies. Familiarize yourselves with them so you will have a name for the next line of bullshit that doesn’t sound quite right to you.
HOAXINATION & ITS CONSEQUENCES
Excellent post. Basically he is a conman that worked to develop young minds to be downtrodden.
Thanks for that most interesting Statista chart, however, for the sake of presenting comparable metrics, one needs to adjust the male, female and transgender figures to account for their proportions of the population. The weighted male mass shooter number therefore becomes 298, the weighted female mass shooter number becomes 8 and the weighted transgender mass shooter number becomes 667 because transgenders make up no more than 0.3% of the population. This does not mean that I think transgender people should be automatically refused firearms licences, but perhaps there is a case for enhanced background checks for such people in the same way that such enhanced checks are applied to those who have a history of mental illness. But I agree wholeheartedly with you that if someone is going to propose gun ownership restrictions on a class of people then they should acquaint themselves fully with all aspects of the reasons for doing so.
Hi David,
thanks for chiming in.
We are in agreement that you don’t penalize an entire group for the actions of a few.
There is another important consideration, and that is that most, if not all, of these highly publicized shootings are clearly fake. They are not grounds for banning guns from any segment of the public, because it wasn’t the public who was really behind them.
I agree that the two school mass shootings by transgenders are probably staged simulations, so that figure of 2 for transgender mass shootings comes down to zero doesn’t it?
Actually if you keep going the guy asking the question said 5. He was wrong, it’s more like 10 in the last 5 years. These are just the publicized ones. I don’t agree with any subset of people losing their gun rights, if they do, soon it will be all of us.
Don’t throw away your gun rights. We look on in envy from Europe.
Not ever gonna happen sir!!
This is so ridiculous…
They are desperately trying to trigger a response so they can censor and confiscate. Kirk, Shapiro, Walsh etc are all bought and paid actors spouting conflict. It’s fake folks.
The “gender” science was also funded by the same bastards. It’s quite evil, indoctrinating children (and their moronic parents) to question basic human reality. These children are forever damaged, similar to rape.
Where did Charlie get his millions of dollars? Who funded TPUSA?
Hi Ubetcha,
“Who funded TPUSA?”
Kirk and TPUSA refused to tell us.
The International Business Times did some digging and uncovered some wealthy donors, but the listed donation amounts don’t even begin to explain how it was able to accumulate hundreds of millions in gifts and grants.
https://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/who-funds-conservative-campus-group-turning-point-usa-donors-revealed-2620325
Kirk came out of nowhere and appeared on Fox & Friends in 2012 at age 17, allegedly while he was still a senior in high school.
Shortly after, the story goes, an elderly conservative activist called Bill Montgomery was watching Kirk speak and mesmerized by his marvelous oratory. Montgomery convinced Kirk not to go on to college but instead go on the road with him, “crisscrossing America with a message of freedom and conservative values for young people.”
https://ussanews.com/2025/09/12/exclusive-never-before-seen-footage-the-day-bill-montgomery-changed-charlie-kirks-life/
Depending on where you read it, it was in 2012 or 2013 that the duo founded Turning Point USA.
Seems to me adult Kirk was nowhere near as sharp as his followers believed him to be, so I highly doubt teenage Kirk played any meaningful role in building up a ‘non-profit’ capable of mysteriously raking in hundreds of millions. The most plausible scenario is that he was groomed from a young age to be the smiling, clean-shaven face of this Trump Youth movement.
I agree, perhaps some version of MK ultra’d early in life. Not to drag another topic into this, yet it seems likely that the rampant abduction and disappearing of children fuels endless supply of pliable minds, each which can play specific roles in this manipulative circus as adults.
agreed but i think the argument for revoking tranz 2a rights, is under the auspices mental illness. as in tranz are by definition mentally ill and therefore not allowed to legally own guns under pre existing laws against mentally ill people owning guns. you can’t say all white males are mentally ill. but it is a slippery slope and meant to set precedent, they can call any class of people mentally ill, eg “conspiracy theorists “. so it’s still very bad.
I’m a religious fellow far more than a political one. I was only peripherally aware of who Charlie Kirk was (he’s obviously much more now). Since his senseless murder, I’ve seen a sampling of Kirk’s campus “debate” encounters. Trying to broad brush who Kirk was from only one such encounter is a disappointing display of anchoring and applied confirmation bias – exactly the kind the unwarranted bias that led his unhinged assassin to murder him. That sort of framing isn’t discernment, and doesn’t restore freedom.
Liberalism is a mental disease.
Respect; well said. I would add that there are some things that make me go Hymn. All of this is Christian fanaticism, for lack of a better description, and it doesn’t phase a good chunk of this country or world. I love faith and spiritual practices, but I’m sickened by constant religious warfare. Ps: continued separation of church/synagogue and state please!
Debate style. From a whacko community college dropout. Uh-huh.
This article made me think of Kirk’s role. He was meant to be an agitator, to stoke up resentment on one side and fist-pumping “yeahs” on the other. I didn’t follow him at all because he was another Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, Crowder. I see the evangelicals (false teachers and such) he partnered with and didn’t pay attention to him. He was political, not a representative of the gospel.
He was a creation of the intel agencies. An asset, to put it simply.
Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.
Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.
“Hey, wait a minute. If the government bans transgender people from owning guns based on a handful of mass shootings, what will it then do in response to the overwhelming majority of mass shootings committed by straight white males?”
Bingo.
The mass shootings and cops killing blacks have all been fake. From Sandy Hook to the George Floyd Show
Even Robinson’s grandmother said he wasn’t that good of a shot. He wasn’t like the rest of the family in terms of hunting.
The whole thing smells of a ruse, along with Kirk’s child trafficking wife, who can’t go back to Romania, and her WWE style entrance to his “memorial”, as she grandstands, smiles and riles up crowd even more. You know just like you’d expect widow to do.